Posts by Apostate Kate2

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What affected you more, growing up in the cult, or a dysfunctional family?

by Bumble Bee in

i think for me, it was the dysfunctional family.

things from my childhood are finally getting to me.

i've tried for so long to just push them to the back of my mind.

Apostate Kate2

For me it was most definately the cult. I came from a very dysfunctional family, to the extreme, but was not as bad as growing up under the shadow of Armageddon in the crazy pre 1970's.

The cult screwed up my head as to the nature of God. That nearly destroyed me. Wether one believes in God or not after the cult, learning that the Bible does not teach Jehovah is the mean, crazy god who jerks people around set me free.

Finding out that the Wizard of Oz was really some old farting screw ball Bethel boobs was the beginning of healing.

Along with years of therapy... PTSD, psychoanalysis, phychologist and psychiatrist for meds when needed.

I still will have past traumas come to the surface, they just don't cripple me anymore. I have learned how to cry and how to reach out to someone who cares and will listen. I love life now and have true peace and joy. .

Hang in there,

Love~Kate

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How can I learn to more assertive?

by Apostate Kate2 in

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i think this is left over from dubdays, dunno.

when i need to be assertive i fizzle out.

my husband was furious when he came home.

Apostate Kate2

Awe thank you Shawn. I understand what you are saying. There is a delicate balance between being assertive and being an a**hole..lol...

I'm going to do some reading and try a few excercises in assertivness training and I'll tell you why. Right now I need to make a phone call, I am intimidated and stalling. The reason is the person I need to call is rich, I provide a charity for her company, but I have never talked or introduced myself to her before.

I always felt that we are not there to hang out with the rich and the beautiful but to provide love to those who are poor and not beautiful anymore. The charity is growing and I really need to meet with her. Why am I intimidated? I am not sure but there is more to the story then I can divulge.

So here I go...I simply must do it.

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I Tried To Be a Righteous Dub, but What Do I Do Now?

by R.F. in

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the topic question has to do with the fact that i tried to be the best jw i could be, which resulted to me distancing myself from certain relatives because they weren't jws themselves.. these relatives i speak of are my cousins.

most of them are my age, and they are actually a pretty good bunch with their heads on straight, not being the scary, creepy, evil people that the wts makes nondubs out to be.

as we all know however, if they aren't "in the truth", they aren't worthy of your company.. the thing now is, i obviously don't believe a thing the wts says anymore and i want to get closer to my relatives.

Apostate Kate2

RF have you thought about asking some cousins out to dinner or to some kind of regional county fair or concert or something like that? At first they may wonder why you are doing it but with time you can begin to explain what life is like being a JW, and how your feelings about it is changing.

You can slowly explian to them how JWs are supposed to stay away from worldy people/family and you were sincerely thinking you were doing right by not being more involved with thier lives. Then you can tell them that you have missed being family to them and no longer believe this to be right.

Mending families takes love and patience. Don't be afraid of rejection just go for it. Be honest about your feelings.

Love~Kate

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What Do You Do for Work / Career?

by BlackPearl in

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i've been on the board for quite a while now and was wondering, what do my fellow jwdr's do for work, employment or career?

me, i'm in probably one of the most hated careers in america right now.

(not gonna tell you what it is either) but how about you, what do you do to earn a little coin?.

Apostate Kate2

On the other hand, I did have a lady kiss me one time because she got so excited.

I think it is obvious. He's a gigalo.

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How can I learn to more assertive?

by Apostate Kate2 in

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i think this is left over from dubdays, dunno.

when i need to be assertive i fizzle out.

my husband was furious when he came home.

Apostate Kate2

Thank you Lawrence, I agree. When we allow people to treat us unjustly we are enabling them to do wrong. I feel strongly about that. However the problem lies in being afraid of what may happen after you say no and stand up for yourself.

It sux how much we are products of our past no matter how hard we try to put it behind us.

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"Government" 1926 J. Rutherford

by Apostate Kate2 in

i'm currently reading this 1926 edition written by the second in charge of the organization after russell, judge rutherford.

this guy was paranoid!

the entire beginning of the book "government" is slinging false allegations at the us government without any substantiation noted that has since been proven lies.

Apostate Kate2

Wow. I heard about 1925 but never read his words before, thanks Dedpoet. I'm gonna look for that book, it is a must read.

How are you and your wife doing? She's been on my heart.

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"Government" 1926 J. Rutherford

by Apostate Kate2 in

i'm currently reading this 1926 edition written by the second in charge of the organization after russell, judge rutherford.

this guy was paranoid!

the entire beginning of the book "government" is slinging false allegations at the us government without any substantiation noted that has since been proven lies.

Apostate Kate2

I'm currently reading this 1926 edition written by the second in charge of the organization after Russell, Judge Rutherford. This guy was PARANOID! The entire beginning of the book "Government" is slinging false allegations at the US Government without any substantiation noted that has since been proven lies. He claims things like; there is proof an invention has been invented where a telegraph can be sent from both directions at 1000 words per minute but the US government is deliberately holding back this new technology for evil reasons. There is an invention patented that can harness the energy of the worlds oceans and provide energy for the all the worlds energy needs but the evil US government is holding it back. Evil politicians blah blah blah. The people that believed this garbage had to be lacking in common sense. The gullible and ignorant that did believe then had to enter his paranoid world of us against them. There is no wonder the Watchtower Society took on such bizarre practices and beliefs. These false allegations have already been proven to be untrue. False Profits! (pun intended) alt He lays down the claims of 1914 in this book too. It was the fulfillment of Matthew 24.

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Paul Blizzard endorses the Creation Museum- do you?

by moshe in

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i saw paul's answer to a reader's question on his watchthetower website this week:.

"we are not saved by knowledge but by simple faith in jesus christ.

when i first got saved i didnt believe in a literal hell.

Apostate Kate2

I'm looking forward to visiting the museum too. I do believe in creation.

Until somebody can throw a bunch of laundry up in the air and have it come down folded, I will continue to believe in intelligent creation. Maybe if one throws them up 2 billion times maybe by chance....

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How can I learn to more assertive?

by Apostate Kate2 in

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i think this is left over from dubdays, dunno.

when i need to be assertive i fizzle out.

my husband was furious when he came home.

Apostate Kate2

So you tell them boys to finish the job they contracted to do, that way later in life when they are older adults and practice good business sense they will remember you as a positive influence in their lives. ( just remember the mind of a teenager, it may not get through till much much later lol!)

The only thing this taught them was they may end up returning to a job if they do not follow instructions.

What does STFU mean?

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How can I learn to more assertive?

by Apostate Kate2 in

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friends

i think this is left over from dubdays, dunno.

when i need to be assertive i fizzle out.

my husband was furious when he came home.

Apostate Kate2

Dragonlady I'll take your advice and put some Samuel Jackson movies in my netflix qeue.

Susan I'm sorry you also suffered with a violent past. It does follow us. I can totally relate to your feelings. I appreciate you sharing that. I don't think the signature practice sounds silly at all, I'm going to do it.

I think subconscienciously there is more going on during confrontations then I am aware of. It does feel good knowing I'm not alone anymore. Hubby was angry but not angry at me, he was angry at the boys. I learned alot from this.

A. Practice and learn how to be assertive because sometimes in order to be truthful, it takes being assertive.

B. Never pay before a job is 100% done and done according to what was agreed on.

C. Don't be afraid! I just need to be tougher than them.

APOSTATE KATE